Comments on: How To Find Jobs as a Magician https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/ Killer Magic, Incredible Advice, Totally Free! Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:04:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Jeff Stone https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1187 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:04:26 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1187 In reply to Portland Magician.

@Hart – true, but’s always a question of tact. That’s a tough thing to pull of politely. I’m certainly not opposed to being “monkey boy” as long as the audience isn’t treating me like monkey boy. Sometimes it’s fun to claim that you’re going to try something impossible that you’ve only been able to do once or twice. Then claim that you’re going to levitate. Then just stand there grunting and moaning and finally giving in because you just can’t quite get in tune with the earth . . . or whatever. You’ll get some who totally believe you and others who will get the tongue-in-cheek.

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By: Portland Magician https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1186 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:19:39 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1186 I agree with Lampkin, unless someone is begging you to perform, save it. Thats what your biz card and website is for.

Hart keene

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By: Jeff Stone https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1185 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:24:35 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1185 In reply to David Lynn.

@David, I’m with you on this. As I mentioned, this is only a rare thing for the jerks . . . it’s a heckler stopper. Like I said, I always carry a handful of easy and powerful routines in my wallet. It’s usually B’Wave that gets used in situations like that.

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By: David Lynn https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1184 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:23:25 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1184 Yeah Jeff, you are right about the mechanic conversation. But keep it tempered with how confrontational he is. I like the walk away with his wallet or search through it for something to use idea. I like to carry rubber bands and coins for impromptu. I am a magician thus I can do magic for anyone anywhere. I am a performer but my desire is to please my audience whether they pay or not. I also believe that in these impromptu sessions that a good story to go with the performance is necessary as it builds atmosphere and thus draws further people to the crowd. My favourite routine is Jay Sankeys versions of “out to lunch’ with his business cards. Hey my cards are now out and at the end of the mini show, hand them to all spectators willing to take one. They will always take them looking for a bit of magic on it. I tell them to look for it also. ( as I have printed in small font on the card the words ” a little bit of magic”. Gets a laugh from everyone. It relaxes them and I finish them off with a quick blurb on uses of professional magicians and how my craft may help them in their business promotions or just as an entertainer in general. bit like a doctor who has just been given a self diagnosis by a guest and then says ” look I’d like you to come in and make an appointment with me so I can take a more involved look at your health issue. I would like to help you with that.”

Others are watching how you handle the braggard condescending twirp. If you can play them into considering you as a business proposition, they will be more conducive to receiving your message for them when you get around to talking to them.

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By: Jeff Stone https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1183 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:55:56 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1183 In reply to Geoff Williams.

@Geoffro, this conversation reminds me of the time Jim Henson and I shared a platter of bacon wrapped Cuisses De Grenouille. It also reminds me of an article I wrote called Imprompt-true.

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By: Jeff Stone https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1182 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:38:26 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1182 In reply to Emory Kimbrough.

@Emory, you bring up an interesting point. I’ve been in those cases where someone does the whole “Hey magic monkey do something.” If there’s some condescension in the tone, I’ll usually do the remove my thumb gag followed by the remove my middle finger and show both sides of my hand gag . . . It gets a double take. I leave it at that. If they get snooty, I may ask a question like, “what do you do for a living?” Let’s say they say they’re a mechanic. I’ll then say, great let’s do some trade work. I’ll do a free show if you give me a free tune up on my car. They may respond with “I just wanted to see something quick.” I’ll then say, “Me too, just a quick brake job then, instead of a tune up.”

I’ll play their game, in other words. However, I only do that a) on rare, rare, rare occasions and b) always with a smile on my face.

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By: Geoff Williams https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1181 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 05:23:01 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1181 Most people know a plumber’s skill is in how he uses his man-made tools. The same goes for dentists, doctors and many other professions. As magicians, we are perceived as having internal “powers” or special abilities and these abilities are intrinsically interesting to the general public (a plumber’s abilities, not so much).

I think it’s perfectly acceptable to do something if asked nicely and repeatedly (the 3-times rule mentioned above by Emory is a good one). Certainly, when asked you probably shouldn’t pull out a plastic Tenyo item or look like you were eagerly waiting with your pockets filled withmagic toys. I think this would be a good time to do some solid impromptu magic, borrowing items from people or the immediate environment if possible. Remember, impromptu doesn’t mean “no thumb tips, gimmicks or advanced prep” but it should appear that way.

As for a condescending confrontation, I should wonder what happened to make it so? Was it your attitude that caused that? Avoid confrontations if at all possible. If someone barks at me to “do a trick,” I would remind them that they need to say “the ancient magic words.” If they ask what those are, say “Here, take my wallet.”

BTW, if you can actually get them to hand you their wallet, you should be able to find something of value in it to use to amaze them. If not, just start walking away… with their wallet.

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By: Emory Kimbrough https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1180 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:05:36 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1180 One good rule for casual / impromptu magic when an unexpected opportunity arises in a social situation:

THE FASTER THE TRICK, THE LOWER THE ODDS OF MAKING AN ASS OF YOURSELF. Maybe you just won gold at FISM with your nine-phase oil-and-water routine, and you’re a standing-room-only hit on Broadway with your full-evening cups-and-balls presentation. Outstanding!!! Yet not good choices if you’re a guest at a wedding reception.

What I’m usually prepared to do, and why I chose it:

Pen-through-bill – It looks impromptu, and I have a funny presentation for it. Used mostly when I encounter a group of mixed ages, so that I have a small _audience_ rather than just a person or two, thus making it not too odd and awkward to do a pattering routine with jokes.

Copper-Silver Transposition – Fairly quick, and it happens in the spectator’s hands with their active participation, making it more like a social interaction than “you shut up and watch me perform.” Also, it doesn’t look too pathetically like an over-prepared eager-magic-boy nerd to have just tossed a couple of old coins in your pocket. My first choice for adults.

Finger-Through-Spectators-Shirt-Sleeve – Extremely fast, and apparently done impromptu with NO PROPS AT ALL. First choice for when I encounter younger kids with parents.

Tougher question: What if they really truly want to see you do a trick, but the vibe is a bit condescending, even if maybe the person isn’t deliberately intending to be condescending or patronizing. You detect just a tiny whiff of “Hey, do your trick when I snap my fingers, little trained monkey.” Now how do you handle that?

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By: Jeff Stone https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1179 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:17:18 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1179 In reply to Mike Peterson.

@Mike/@Emory – I like this . . . conversations are happening and things are being questioned. I think I’m more in line with Emory’s thinking. I carry in my wallet several effects:

  • Jay Sankey’s Sound Waves
  • Richard Sanders’s Power Ball 60
  • Max Maven’s B’Wave
  • Paul Carnazzo’s Animania

and 5 ESP Cards

They are there in case I need them. I usually don’t, but man when I do, it’s powerful stuff. It ranges from organic stuff that doesn’t feel like a “presentation” at all (e.g. Sound Waves, Power Ball 60) to stuff that is clearly a “presentation” (e.g. B’Wave, ESP Cards).

But Emory is right . . . don’t force this on people. Wait for the right moment, and make sure you know it’s the right moment.

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By: Emory Kimbrough https://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/no-stone-left-unturned/how-to-find-jobs-as-a-magician/#comment-1178 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:21:12 +0000 http://www.stonecoldmagicmagazine.com/?p=3787#comment-1178 I suspect that the truth resides in the middle on whether to always have some magic ready to go. I have witnessed the problem that Mr. Lampkin correctly cautions us about – Comedians who always try to be “on” and magicians constantly looking for any excuse to pull out a trick. Even if they’re capable performers, the behavior indeed can make them appear to be annoying jokesters and tricksters, not professionals. Worse, it can be monopolizing – forcing everyone to shut up and watch you in a situation when a free conversation among participating equals would instead be far more socially appropriate.

This can make you look like you’re socially crippled – unable to relate to other people without using the crutch of memorized jokes or tricks you have to carry. It also makes you look like you have a pathetic need to always be calling attention to yourself.

But there is another side of the coin, and it can be illustrated by reworking Mr. Lampkin’s doctor analogy. It would be bizarre for a dermatologist to go around at a cocktail party examining everyone’s skin, and it would be rude for a guest to ask for an examination there instead of scheduling an appointment. But what if, out of genuine curiosity, you had a quick medical science question for the doctor – Something any competent doctor would know, and something that naturally arose in the conversation. “You’re a dermatologist? This guy I work with is CONSTANTLY telling everybody in the office that they should take megadoses of vitamin C to prevent skin cancer. Is that quackery?”

Now suppose the doc says “Buh… gee, I dunno… Can’t answer – you got me stumped on that one.” He sounds like a very poorly educated doctor – Certainly not one I’d want to visit.

One well-known magician said that he performs in casual social settings only after he is asked THREE TIMES. Sage advice. Just being asked once probably means they’re just being polite. It can also mean that they’re expressing some interest in you as a person, so it’s really an invitation to continue a conversation instead of an actual invitation to perform. Only after multiple requests, preferably from multiple people, does it become clear that there really is a strong expectation and a strong desire for you to REALLY perform something rather than socially converse. That won’t happen very often – and if you think it does happen often to you, you’re fooling yourself and inflicting magic on people. But when it does occur, you should be prepared or you’ll look like the incompetent dermatologist.

Carry the tricks, but be extremely conservative and self-skeptical about when to bring them out. It’s likely carrying a pistol – mostly you want to keep it in the holster unless you’re REALLY sure you need to pull it out.

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